Thoughts on Gallifrey 1.3: The Inquiry

Cut for spoilers and going on at length. Technically some of this stuff is more 1.1-1.2 commentary.

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Everyone says skip Autumn Mist. I skimmed it and it doesn’t provide a lot of explanation for why Sam leaves.

Yeah, that’s what I’d heard. And everyone who says Fitz gets character development is countered by someone else who says nothing important happens to him either.

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He got stuck in a revenge rut for a while earlier similar to the Joker, but then he went from being the guy who makes Spider-Man’s life more miserable than it already is to the guy who embodies everything that’s wrong with America under the War on Terror, and that made him much more interesting.

Ooh, I’m going to have to disagree with you there. The Peter-Norman(-Harry) dynamic, or more accurately the Parker/Spider-Goblin/Osborn dynamic is the collision of an intricate multi-generational familial psychodrama with class conflict. Which sounds a bit mashed together but it makes sense that Spider-Man’s nemesis would be the evil counterpart of Uncle Ben, and that Peter Parker’s nemesis would be a corrupt scientist-turned-plutocrat. (Come to think, this is also a formula that explains why Spidey’s other nemesis is J. Jonah Jameson.)

Norman Osborn as an Avengers villain is a natural extension of the corrupt businessman aspect channeled through our post-9/11/post-recession anxieties, but that other aspect of him’s been flattened out and I think the character is the poorer for it. The idea of an iconic but localized threat making the big time is one that has legs, but during Dark Reign Marvel was so determined to establish Brand New Day as a restoration of the “classic” status quo for Spider-Man that he ended up sidelined in a story about his own worst enemy essentially taking over the country.

(@osbombing, feel free to jump in here! You’re the Norman expert.)

It seems like Doc Ock got to be the semi-sympathetic Spider-Man villain whereas Norman’s the purely evil one, whereas in the Silver Age Norman was sort of a tragic figure and Doc Ock was a pure villain.

Otto has definitely become more sympathetic over time. But the contrast between his icily malevolent side and his almost gentlemanly honor code has existed since at least his third appearance in the first ASM annual, when he kidnapped Betty and Aunt May and, uh… served them danishes and coffee as they waited in a plush sitting room. Arguably, it goes back to ASM #11, when he spared Peter Parker’s life because he was only interested in killing the “real” Spider-Man (ha!).

I’m not disagreeing with you, for the record, just adding some historical context with a dash of appreciation for how much of a smooth bastard the Lee/Ditko era Otto was. (I have to admit that even if I hadn’t bailed early on Superior Spider-Man because of the squicky way the Otto/MJ stuff was handled, I probably would’ve given up quickly — Slott’s Otto always came off as a bit thuggish to me, whereas I like my Doc Ocks more in the Lee/Ditko, J.M. DeMatteis or Diane Duane vein.)

 angelophile replied to your post “An Unearthly Child, eps 3 and 4: The Forest of Fear and The Firemaker”

Not the greatest One story by a long way, but it’s genuinely interesting how he was written. The softening from the pilot didn’t seem to carry over into the third episode for example. “I’m just… holding this pointy rock, honest, Chesterfield.”

Even though nothing was actually stated out loud it was a pretty dark moment for a “family” show, I have to say. Then again there were also two actual murders and several attempted ones. And next serial is the Daleks.

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I’m half tempted to believe that Susan was just sat around, wide eyed and gleefully sticking skulls on flaming stakes until someone went, “Hey, actually we could use this to escape.”

Ian jumped on Susan’s brainstorm pretty quickly but I accept this headcanon nonetheless. 

 creepingmonsterism replied to your post “angelophile replied to your post: …”

That’s Susan in a nutshell. At some point you should read Time and Relative by Kim Newman, that has some great writing from Susan’s POV

The description sounds promising! I’ll keep an eye out for it.

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An Unearthly Child, eps 3 and 4: The Forest of Fear and The Firemaker

Now tagged with “dwchrono” for anyone who cares to keep track of these.

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Fic: Time 3.0, by Teyke

It has been suggested that after his eighth regeneration, the Doctor begins lying about his age. The official explanation is that he has simply lost track. This is a third possible explanation for the discrepancy between his ages in the new and old series.

Re-reccing possibly my very favorite Doctor Who fic, which uses less than 10,000 words to convey the incomprehensible weirdness and unknowable tragedy of a Time War beyond the scale of human understanding. This has already been slightly contradicted by onscreen events and will probably be in its own little ‘verse by this evening. (New Who with Classic bits, not EU-compatible.)

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image ununnilium answered to your post “So here’s the other question, followers: what do you think are the…”

How you express yourself: Straightforward and clear.

My superhero origin is that in college I was very, very irritated by Michel Foucault.

image creepingmonsterism answered to your post “So here’s the other question, followers: what do you think are the…”

Your thinking is very precise (something I’m frustrated with in my own writing at the moment)

That’s definitely a plus side of having a strong internal editor— even my first drafts have to run a gauntlet. The downside being that I miss the benefits of, you know, first drafts— trade you for some spontaneity? I offer a very good exchange rate.

Thank you both for answering; you’ve given me stuff to think over. :)

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Several times before starting my Eighth Doctor Adventures readthrough I was informed that Fitz was something of a Rose precursor, and it’s not that I don’t see where those comparisons are coming from, but so far it’s more like the Eight/Sam/Fitz Team TARDIS is like an alternate Ten/Rose/Mickey team in which Mickey wasn’t immediately sidelined by the narrative before getting shuffled off-screen.


High-five in the general direction of your hand, without making any physical contact.

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So I had the bright idea of finishing Revolution Man before going to bed. In retrospect? Not my best plan. Yeesh, that’s a downer ending.